Ukrajina

Toto tiež ešte nebude uzatvorené. Ukrajinský pilot sa priznal k zostreleniu malajského lietadla.

http://wahrheitfuerdeutschland.de/?p=3622

nemecky neviem ale cez prekladač v googli som to nejako lúštil.

 

Ešte tam je niečo o demokratickom hlasovaní v parlamente. Tomu nie je treba rozumieť stačí vidieť.

hm :),  a  vzhladom na vas tam pre istotu dali v troch jazykoch :

The source of this article is a satire page. Источником этой статьи является страница сатира. Die Quelle dieses Artikels, ist eine Satireseite

Nenapovedalo ti to nic ?  :),   uvedomujes si ze veris vyvratenym klamstvam, nezmyslom a blaznom ?

 

 

a to hlasovanie v parlamente je tiez dobre :),  kedze ho nakrutila este opozicia za cias janukovyca a sluzilo to proti nemu :)

Par forumackych prispevkov Igora Girkina z rokov 2010-2011. Zaujimave nazory.

http://potsreotizm.livejournal.com/4139635.html

 

Anglicky preklad

1. On constitution

 

06 Aug 2010 - 22:39

 

Until the cursed year of 1905 the Russian Empire was getting by splendidly with just a Set of Laws, with no motherfucking constitution...

 

06 Aug 2010 - 22:42

 

But it's an invention of Jews and Freemasons (no sarcasm here)... Or are you willing to play by their rules?

 

2. On (then president) Medvedev

 

06 Aug 2010 - 22:50

 

Yes, the <times of the Set of Laws> were good times. My great-grandfather was still on duty as a sergeant, another was only just getting ready to serve (in the First Zaamursky Railroad batallion)... while Dmitry Mendel's ancestors were still living in the vicinity of Baranovichi <in Belarus>... in a nice quiet place ... right next to a synagogue where his great-grandpa was a rabbi...

 

Girkin's referring to the Pale of Settlement for Jews in Russia, suggesting that Medvedev's name was changed from the Jewish Mendel, and comparing his own "true Russian patriot" ancestors to lowly Jews, who in the olden times wouldn't even be allowed to settle anywhere close to the capital

 

3. On our days

 

24 Feb 2011 - 14:53

 

...In 1991 power was seized by real, actual faggots... and they are still in power and no one's revolting against them. Instead of an ass they've put up <modern sculptor> Tsereteli's Idol... (Tsereteli is a fag, too, and that's not mentioning that he's related to a well known menshevik revolutioner)...

 

Apparently he means some statue by Tsereteli, but I have no idea which. The best known by him is a monument of Peter the Great

 

4. On <very famous Russian poet> Pushkin

 

22 Jan 2011 - 01:42

 

Pushkin was a high-degree freemason - I agree with that, although with time I've become deeply disappointed in him. Some people suggest that he was actually shot by D'Anthès for betrayal of freemasonry (up until then they were in the same lodge)

 

5. On Jews - replying to another forum member

 

Your folks have shed so much Russian blood in the years 1917-1937 that Hitler would be green with envy. Ah, even now they're drinking our blood and will soon suck out all the brains of the population.

 

6. On Baltic people

 

05 Jan 2011 - 01:53

 

They're ###### masochists... really... We've been kicking and kicking their ###### ass and it's still not enough... ######, I would've given them a cleansing that would make Stalin look like a humanist. Hate those bastards... ###### nancies...

 

7. On Poles

 

20 Dec 2010 - 12:56

 

At some dinner recently someone was telling about his friend who had served in the French Foreign Legion. Giving some national characteristics, he had emphasized: there was no one so hysterical, so disgusting, so greedy and creepy like the Poles.

 

I'm getting tired. The douchbaggery goes on and on. I think you get the idea: Jews bad, gay people bad (he's saying he would have to kill his son with his own hands if he knew he was gay), any other nation bad, Russian government bad. What good? No answer.

 

Upd. Continuing.

 

8. On Chechens

 

08 Jan 2011 - 21:38

 

I had a pal in Chechnya, I've once written him a poem as a present:

 

Chechen kids were going to school

 

Nice Unkle ... was giving out sweets

 

Kids were avoiding him like the devil:

 

Many of their friends they had had to carry to grave.

 

I have a really uncanny feeling that ... is his friend's name here and sweets are bullets.

 

9. On himself

 

this is actually a longer comment, I'll translate the whole reply. It's a comment in a discussion about Stalin: Girkin says that he would love for Stalin to come back and make a new cleansing of the government, and for himself to carry out orders, "push an ice pick up someone's ass". When asked if he's not afraid that he'd be the next to be detained, he answers:

 

20 Aug 2010 - 21:26

 

But what do I have to lose? Apart from the free metrocard for veterans? I own no flat, no car - just about six tin medals and a hole in my leg. That way I'd at least be of some use to the people - would have freed them from vermin and parasites. After that I don't care what comes. But I'm definitely not gonna repent in court. I don't have anything to fear, ithat's for people who have something to lose. Why are you afraid for yourself? Did you embezzle too much? But I guess not as much as Vovan <Putin> and others. It's for them that we will have to prepare the ice picks - we're gonna hunt them down in Courchevel or Canary islands, Mallorca or Tel-Aviv. We'd need too many ice picks for small fish like you.

 

10. On the decay of the West

 

22 Aug 2010 - 11:55

 

But to speak of so called "western civilisations", from being dragged into which the communists have (involuntarily) stopped us, I'll only remark that their death is not so far away as well... It's not necessary for national forthcoming to copy the "bourgeois values" blindly. Especially such as "tolerance" (toward queers, for example), aggressive feminism + the ubiquitous apostasy (life without Belief)

 

11. On Stalin

 

30 Sep 2010 - 22:46

 

I do appreciate Stalin not as "the hero of Tsaritsin" <a Civil war battle>, not for his "repression" against kulaks, but as the largest and most talented political leader, whose name NO ONE EVER can erase from Russian and Soviet history.

 

Oh hey, someone he likes

 

12. On Lenin

 

24 Feb 2011 - 15:11

 

I suggest burning the mummy in a crematory, then loading a cannon with the ashes and shoot him to the West.

 

13. On Belarus

 

20 Dec 2010 - 23:24

 

I have a lot of family in Belarus - I'm visiting them regularly... I laugh at much of it and frown upon some things... But, on the whole, if I could, I'd prefer to live there - almost no <dark skinned minorities>, it's clean, as they say "simple but tasteful". Admittedly, no opportunity for "showing some business talent" and becoming a millionnaire out of other people's pockets (stealing everything you can), but that's not in the cards for me in Russia anyway, not that I'd want it.

 

"stealing" in Russian often refers to embezzling and corruption, not actually to thiefs on the street

 

14. On the army

 

28 Sep 2010 - 13:07

 

I have no hope whatsoever in our generals. They bow down to <Minister of Defense> the Chair-Repairman - how much lower can they fall? Even if they come to power, they're just gonna steal more - the whole higher command is ###### shit. Selection for incapability is ubiquitous in the army.

 

15. On Anna Chapman becoming a Duma member

 

14 Feb 2011 - 22:22

 

What are you all getting so upset about? One cunt more or less in the Duma, what's the difference? There's been no one but prostitutes and faggots in there for a long time now (in fact, was it ever different?). What's the noise? On the contrary, we need to cheer on the government here. Maybe when Putin's labrador Koni will take his seat as vice speaker, at least part of the population will realise that this is the only kind of democracy Russia can have. A million a year is dying away, one and a half are leaving the country and you don't care ... but this upsets you...

 

16. On <Putin's party> United Russia

 

20 Dec 2010 - 22:44

 

Anything that has to do with United Russia, is - by definition - just a disquise for a feeding trough, painted in cheap loud colors ... a dirty one... my conclusion - no one but an unpretentious and stupid pig will ever go near that trough.

 

17. On pogroms against Jews in Lithuania in 1941 and <Chechnya's president> Ramzan Kadyrov

 

Who else is to blame but the Germans? The Bolsheviks, probably? It's stated very clear: the Germans have organised and provoked a pogrom and they had taked over the country at that time. Or do you think, for example, that Ramzan Kadyrov is the only reason that Chechnya is a dictatorship? The root of it is in Moscow... So why are you trying to take away the blame from the Germans and give it to "evil" Lithuanians?

 

18. On <Russian gaga propagandist> Prokhanov

 

28 Dec 2010 - 16:44

 

He and his sons are very "sensible people" actually. They even have a "family business" - uneducated simplified patriotism for the masses.

 

19. On himself, Hitler and <Butcher of Chechnya> General Shamanov

 

06 Dec 2010 - 01:30

 

Have you ever considered that <Hitler> maybe just enjoyed war? A lot of men do actually... In our special forces they are the majority, even - and by far not all of them are patriots. Take General Shamanov, for example - I've heard only the best things about him as a military man - he loved war and he was good at it. Once he became Mayor, he turned out to be not just a regular "thief", but a highly talented one (which is why he was promoted)

 

06 Dec 2010 - 02:39

 

I never said I didn't enjoy war. I've dreamt of going to war since I was a child, having three family generations in service, two of them actually fighting in wars.

 

20. On gay people

 

21 Jan 2011 - 19:42

 

If any of my sons (I have two) ever has anything to do with that filth, I will have to kill him with my own hands - so that he won't disgrace my kin and myself personally. And as long as society will remain tolerant to that smut, which makes propaganda for their perverted vices and even makes them a REQUIREMENT FOR SUCCESS (in a great many fields), as long I (to my shame) cannot be 100% sure that it won't happen... That's why I consider the removal of faggots by society to be self-defense.

 

21. On women

 

20 Jan 2011 - 16:07

 

We've always had a fair share of those oblivious of origin and roots in Russia... I don't even speak of broads - those are creatures without nationality - whoever gives them children owns them.

 

22. On Western Ukrainians

 

22 Jan 2011

 

I recently came across a photo book - "History of SS division Galician" - all in their Ukrainian-speak. So, I had a look at the faces of those "Ukrainian Aryans" and a doubt came over me - how they were selecting them... half of them are dark and curly-haired, and as to big noses - at least 2/3... including many officers. Have you seen it?

Chlapik v podstate nenavidi vsetko, sucasne vedenie Ruska, Zidov, Poliakov, obyvatelov Baltu, Zapad, Ukrajincov, homosexualov....

Bigot, ktoremu je clivo za vyromantizovanou, vyfantazirovanou dobou etnicky cisteho, silneho Ruska, bez korupcie, chudoby... Co je horsie, ze velkej casti Ruskej populacie tieto nazory imponuju.

v ruských médiách koluje správa o 438 ukrajinských vojakoch ktorí "dezertovali" túto noc s "južného kotla" a požiadali o azyl v rusku

ale žiadne fotky ani video.. žjadna možnosť overenia

napríklad "hlásna trúba" RT http://russian.rt.com/article/43779

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napriek zjavným úspechom, v boji s presilou sa na stránkach separatistov začínajú objavovať skeptické komentáre k ďalšiemu vývoju ich situácie

http://www.novinky.cz/zahranicni/evropa/344044-stovky-ukrajinskych-vojaku-a-pohranicniku-pry-zbehly-do-ruska.html

Velení ukrajinské armády v reakci na informace z Ruska oznámilo, že hranice do Ruska přešla část příslušníků 72. ukrajinské motorizované brigády. Důvodem prý byla skutečnost, že vojákům po přestřelce se vzbouřenci došla munice.

"Vojáci z brigády se rozdělili na dvě skupiny. Jedna prorazila obklíčení teroristů a druhá jejich postup kryla palbou. Přitom jedné z jednotek došly náboje. Bojová technika byla poškozena a vojáci se museli uchýlit na ruský pohraniční přechod. Jejich počet se zjišťuje," uvedla tisková služba ukrajinského velení.

Velitel ukrajinských pozemních vojsk Anatolij Pušňakov v neděli večer v kyjevské televizi řekl, že armáda se snaží z kritických míst na ukrajinsko-ruské hranici vyvést oslabené jednotky.

"Jsou to hrdinové," řekl generál. "Ocitají se v křížové palbě vedené z povstaleckých pozic a souběžně z druhé strany z ruského území. V Afghánistánu byly bojové operace jednodušší," řekl Pušňakov.

 

starsi,  a ked si len tak prebehnes www.stopfake.org, tak zistis ze  ruske zdroje su primarne nedoveryhodne.  Mylit sa mozu vsade ale tu ide o umyselne lzi.

Takze Ruske media hovoria o stovkach, ktore dezertovali, Ukrajinske media o hrdinoch, ktori chranili Ukrajinu do poslednej gulky. :D

Takze ja si supnem tretiu verziu, neschpona Ukrajinska armada nie je schopna poriadne zasobovat jednotky operujuce v blizkosti Ruskej hranice. Na tychto jednotkach stoji a pada cele obklucenie separatistov a tym padom zvladzaju so separatistami tvrde boje. A kvoli neexistujucemu zasobovaniu a nulovej podpore nemali uz inu moznost, ako skusit stastie u Ruskych pohranicnikov. Pricom niektori vojaci mali asi vsetkeho plne zuby a tak rovno dezertovali. Co im asi tazko mat za zle.

video a fotky z "internačného tábora" v rusku (neviem ako to inak nazvať)

http://ria.ru/tv_society/20140804/1018739497.html

http://ria.ru/world/20140804/1018759893.html

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http://rusvesna.su/news/1407149353

http://youtu.be/BrI7OeCbtks

Zase, aby sme vyvazili, takto vyzera ukrajinska propaganda, a priamo na strankach nezavisleho a objektivneho SME:

 

Mýty o Ukrajine 1

http://ekonomika.sme.sk/c/7317548/kyjev-setri-bez-teplej-vody-bude-az-do-konca-septembra.html

Kyjev šetrí, bez teplej vody bude až do konca septembra

V pondelok im to oficiálne oznámil starosta metropoly Vitalij Kličko.

"V tomto teplom období počítame s pochopením Kyjevčanov pre nedostatok teplej vody. S dodávkami opäť začneme až s príchodom zimy, koncom septembra," cituje Klička tlačová agentúra Interfax-Ukrajina.

http://rusvesna.su/news/1407183584

https://www.facebook.com/borys.filatov/posts/695407100541190

:wtf:

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táto stránka je ukrajinská..

http://gordonua.com/news/separatism/Filatov-Pod-Doneckom-batalony-Azov-i-SHahtersk-popali-v-zasadu-uzhe-okolo-11-trehsotyh-34904.html

he..

asi sa nevyplatí "plánovať vojnu cez fejsbúk"..

toto bol aký "kaliber"? stačil by na toto cмерч ?

kokooos :D

 

len pre zaujimavost: Pocet ludi v skupinach Majdan a antiMajdan podla regionov:

 

 

LN: Jak dlouho podle vás ještě tato situace potrvá?

Nevím. Nemuselo k ní vůbec dojít. Na Krymu jsme se měli Rusům postavit. I když můj otec je také Rus, matka Ukrajinka, musím říct, že tady je ruská agrese jasná. Tím, že jim naše vláda odevzdala bez jediného výstřelu Krym, navnadila je na Doněck. Vojáci na Krymu byli připraveni se bránit, ale voják bez rozkazu nemůže dělat nic.

http://www.lidovky.cz/rozhanel-majdan-ted-brani-ukrajinu-dt1-/zpravy-svet.aspx?c=A140803_211522_ln_zahranici_ele

Asi na tom nieco bude :)

 

Ukrajinští dezertéři v Rusku: Museli jsme k vám přejít, Kyjev nám nedává najíst, pijeme vodu z kaluží, máme průjmy. 400 ukrajinských vojáků líčí peklo v rozpadající se armádě!

http://www.politnavigator.net/v-gosdume-prosyat-opolchencev-donbassa-proderzhatsya-do-noyabrya.html

myslím že v tomto krátkom a stručnom článku, je "vyzradené" čo Putin chce a plánuje

separatisti majú odporovať až do novembra

potom Putin použije "zbraň hromadného ničenia" - utiahne kohútiky na plynovodoch..

očakáva od toho, že na ukrajine sa zrúti ekonomika, a vypuknú rozsiahle sociálne nepokoje

následkom toho nebude schopná ukrajinská armáda, vykonať ďalšie ofenzívne operácie proti separatistom

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už skôr som povedal že ten - kto "oslobodí" ukrajinu, toho to zruinuje

ak separatisti do zimy nevydržia

dokonca aj keď Putin dokonca odolá nátlaku jastrabov, nepodnikne nijakú "humanitárnu" operáciu, pri ktorej by ruská armáda vtrhla na Donbass a obsadila to tam

EU vyjde s tohto konfliktu de facto ako porazená, pretože celé tie horibilné náklady na obnovu infraštruktúry, budeme cvakať "my európania"

 

dokáže tu niekto vyložiť nejakú inú víziu, ako sa toto skončí?

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"jastrabí článok" z ruska

http://riafan.ru/2014/08/04/43510-boynya-nomer-chetyire/

tvrdí sa v ňom že Putin jednoducho "musí" obsadiť ďalšiu časť ukrajiny

lebo napríklad, prípadná porážka separatistov, by neznamenala koniec sankcií, ale ich pokračovanie kvôli krymu

takisto by to bol otras pre jeho režim

"dopravná nehoda"

http://youtu.be/82Qdjmlc5P8

je to zaujímavé sledovať

len čo ukrajinci trochu prestali útočiť, a začali preskupovať sily pred "finálnym" útokom na Doneck, začali sa separatisti hádať medzi sebou, kto je z nich "šéf"

http://vk.com/strelkov_info?w=wall-57424472_10688

tento titulok z nemecka, ma istým spôsobom pobavil

Kampf um Separatistenhochburg: Ukrainische Luftwaffe greift Donezk an
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/ukraine-krise-luftwaffe-greift-separatisten-hochburg-donezk-an-a-984683.html

ako dlho to nemčine asi vydrží, že vojenská terminológia, v nej, bude mať takú "svojráznu príchuť"?

ukrajinská reportáž z hraničného bodu v "južnom kotli"

http://www.segodnya.ua/regions/odessa/zablokirovannye-na-granice-s-rf-ukrainskie-voennye-vnachale-kruzhit-samoletik-a-potom-tuda-letyat-snaryady-542132.html

https://goo.gl/maps/qZaCf

Občas je treba sa vrátiť do histórie ...        http://novysmer.cz/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1594:

len sa tam skusme vracat korektne,  nikto normalny predsa nebrani taketo zlociny,  len pridajme ze ustasovci ( teda chorvatski nacionaliosti) maju na svedomi podobne veci. nemci maju svoje vojnove zlociny, rusi tiez.

Preco sa teda pri navrate do historie zastavujes na zapadnej ukrajine a nehladas aj hladomor v 30 rokoch ?

 

Ale mozno lepsia otazka je co to ma spolocne s dneskom ? Oznacovanie dnesnej ukrajinskej vlady za fasistov a hlasanie ze chcu pozabijat rusov je o ruskej propagande, nie o skutocnosti.  

 

Je slovensko fasisticka  krajina ?  Kazdy normalny clovek povie ze nie, ale  ak spravne zostrihas spravy, tak mas  vysoku podporu extremistov, protiromske a protizidovske pogromy, oslavovanie vrazdenia.  Keby sme susedili s ruskom, tak uz maju dovod nam ist pomahat,   podobne ako nas zachranovali pred nemeckými fasistami  v 68. 

toto je ukrajinský zdroj, rozhovor s jedným účastníkom "ATO"

http://inforesist.org/esli-vam-po-televizoru-skazali-chto-za-proshedshie-sutki-pogibli-dva-ili-tri-voennyx-znajte-na-samom-dele-ix-12-13/

tvrdí v rozpore s oficiálnym vyhlásením o počte strát 363 mŕtvych v boji, že je to omnoho vyššie číslo viac ako 4000

ako príklad uvádza jednu z akcií na ktorej sa zúčasnil, v médiách sa ojavila správa o "2 až 3 zabitých", v skutočnosti ich bolo "minimálne 12 a možno aj viac"

tiež si sťažuje na zlú materiálnu vybavenosť, aj na zlú koordináciu medzi jednotlivými zložkami

no mozno prehana, ale viem si zivo predstavit  ze ukrajinska armada je podobna nasej a tak jej bojeschopnost nie je vysoka. Ale ak do toho priamo nezasiahnu rusi, tak by to mali zvladnut.

Ale dosledky budu jasne,  ukrajina prestane podcenovat vydavky na armadu a spravia mozne aj nemozne aby sa dostali do NATO.

prepáč tyso.. že ja s takou chuťou "žeriem" nechutnú ruskú propagandu

ale keď si prezerám ukrajinskú tlač, objavujem samé "perly"

napríklad

http://obozrevatel.com/politics/71906-ukrainskaya-armiya-ottesnila-boevikov-k-granitse.htm

halasný titulok "zatlačili sme teroristov k hraniciam", a úplne na konci článku sa dozviem že vlastne ukrajinci museli ustúpiť..

alebo

http://obozrevatel.com/crime/92614-boeviki-ukrali-u-ahmetova-bolee-50-vagonov-s-uglem.htm

neznámi "bojovníci" vtrhli do uhoľného skladu, vyhlásili že zabavujú uhlie pre trpiacich obyvateľov kyjeva, ktorí momentálne nemajú ani teplú vodu, "v mene revolúcie" atď

pripojili lokomotívu a odfrčali neznámo kam.. a s nimi aj viac ako 50 vagónov doplna naprataných uhlím